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Dalia



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:16 pm
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In the word "Impressionisms"

Are there 5 morphemes or 4? Do I count /press/ as 1 free morpheme then /imp/, /ion/, /ism/ and /s/ as 4 bound morphemes? Or I count /impress/ as 1 free morpheme then /ion/, /ism/ and /s/ as 3 bound morphemes?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:05 am
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I guess in this case the whole stem 'impression' can be considered as one unit, because it's a lexicalized form and only historically can we speak about three morphemes. Plus as far as I can judge, Prefixing im- is not a productive morphological construction any more (if it ever was). I'm thinking on -ion, but my English is too poor to judge its productivity. (I just looked at it, and from Ingo Plag's Word-Formation in English (CUP 2003) it seems to be productive).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:41 am
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"Im-" is just "in-", where n changes to an m before a bilabial, like in the word "impossible".

Why can we only historically speak about three morphemes? What about "anti-dis-establish-ment-ari-an-ism"? Or un-system-atic-al-ly? Lots of words are made up of more than three morphemes, though as far as I know only one can be inflectional and the the others must be derivational. Here is a good page I just googled... helpful tables and examples!

http://www.ling.udel.edu/arena/morphology.html

I would break down Impressionisms as im-press-ion-ism-s. I would separate im and press, because to impress something can also mean to physically press something to make a mark, where the common meaning of 'impress' comes from. I would say /im(n)/, /ion/,/ism/, /s/ all as bound morphemes like you said, and /press/ as the free morpheme.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:43 pm
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Corybobory, I don't argue that those morphemes are not identifiable, and agree with your analysis. I only wanted to point out that in this word these (in/m-press-ion) are probably processed/stored as one unit in today's speakers minds. Still, you are the native speaker, so if you say that it isn't so, I believe you Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:57 am
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Thank you so much guys, your posts were an asset and they helped me stop being clueless. I really appreciate your quick replies.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:59 am
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Corybobory wrote: "Im-" is just "in-", where n changes to an m before a bilabial, like in the word "impossible".

Why can we only historically speak about three morphemes? What about "anti-dis-establish-ment-ari-an-ism"? Or un-system-atic-al-ly? Lots of words are made up of more than three morphemes, though as far as I know only one can be inflectional and the the others must be derivational. Here is a good page I just googled... helpful tables and examples!

http://www.ling.udel.edu/arena/morphology.html

I would break down Impressionisms as im-press-ion-ism-s. I would separate im and press, because to impress something can also mean to physically press something to make a mark, where the common meaning of 'impress' comes from. I would say /im(n)/, /ion/,/ism/, /s/ all as bound morphemes like you said, and /press/ as the free morpheme.

Hope this helps!


A very special thanks to you Corybobory Smile
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